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Author:  wire2004 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  21 into 20 clearly doesnt work

next year. we have 21 races on the provisional calender. this years 19 races plus the wuropean gp in bacu and the return of the german gp.

BUT.

the updated and ratified technical regulations for next year state that the minimum official world championship races is 8 and the maximum being 20.

the problem is now which grand prix will be dropped or will the world motorsport council ratify the changes so that there will now be a new maximum number of races. (Isn't it to be expanded to 22 for 2017 wuth the races that have contracts)

Author:  mcdo [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:05 pm ]
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Red Bull to pull the Austrian GP in protest, FIA to say "no big deal, we only want 20", pushing them further out the door

Author:  mikeyg123 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:12 pm ]
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We have 21 races on the provisional calendar before and 20 many times. We have only actually ever had the full 20 races once. Someone always drops out.

Author:  Flash2k11 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:25 pm ]
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Joe Saward has a small piece on this

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/rules-2/

Author:  Black_Flag_11 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:37 pm ]
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I would never book a holiday around the provisional calander (it was tempting with the Malaysia/Singapore double header) because they always change. Always. It seems to me as though Bernie uses a provisional calendar as a way of bullying certain circuits to cough up by scheduling them into an awkward slot or dropping them all together.

Prediction: Baku won't happen and Hulkenberg will be back at Le Mans defending his title with Porsche.

Author:  GingerFurball [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:43 pm ]
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Baku shouldn't happen. F1 has no business visiting a country like Azerbijan.

Author:  Remmirath [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:57 am ]
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Hopefully it won't be Monza or Silverstone to get the boot, if one does... I'd certainly rather see Baku not end up having it together in time after all.

Flash2k11 wrote:
Joe Saward has a small piece on this

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/rules-2/

Interesting. That would mean that, assuming none of them back out or are cut, we would see all 21.

Author:  HawaiiF1Fan [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:35 am ]
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^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Author:  Exediron [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:35 am ]
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HawaiiF1Fan wrote:
^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Ah, but New Jersey didn't having the backing of a corrupt government! You're forgetting the most important ingredient for any race to be successful in modern F1!

:-P

Author:  Balibari [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:35 pm ]
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Flash2k11 wrote:
Joe Saward has a small piece on this

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/rules-2/

Saward's quite right. Ultimately the rules are so vague, contradictory and unenforceable anything can happen if the right people have the right will. I'm not saying we won't lose a race. Just that there's no way we'll lose one in order to meet the 20 race 'limit.'

Author:  pokerman [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:41 pm ]
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I'm just wondering how does this affect the engine allocation, are we back to 5 engines?

Author:  Herb [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:44 pm ]
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pokerman wrote:
I'm just wondering how does this affect the engine allocation, are we back to 5 engines?



I believe we are regardless of whether Baku goes ahead, as far as I remember, 20 races is the trigger for 5 engines per season.

Author:  sandman1347 [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:00 pm ]
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Exediron wrote:
HawaiiF1Fan wrote:
^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Ah, but New Jersey didn't having the backing of a corrupt government! You're forgetting the most important ingredient for any race to be successful in modern F1!

:-P

Sad but true. Our corrupt government did not back the race while Middle Eastern corrupt governments know how to have a good time.

Author:  Exediron [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:16 pm ]
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sandman1347 wrote:
Sad but true. Our corrupt government did not back the race while Middle Eastern corrupt governments know how to have a good time.

:D

It hurts because it's true.

Author:  HawaiiF1Fan [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:45 pm ]
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Exediron wrote:
HawaiiF1Fan wrote:
^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Ah, but New Jersey didn't having the backing of a corrupt government! You're forgetting the most important ingredient for any race to be successful in modern F1!

:-P



I stand corrected.

Author:  pokerman [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:49 pm ]
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Herb wrote:
pokerman wrote:
I'm just wondering how does this affect the engine allocation, are we back to 5 engines?



I believe we are regardless of whether Baku goes ahead, as far as I remember, 20 races is the trigger for 5 engines per season.

Yes I knew 20 races was the trigger for 5 races, I didn't know if it still stood for next year

Author:  2fast [ Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:41 am ]
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mcdo wrote:
Red Bull to pull the Austrian GP in protest, FIA to say "no big deal, we only want 20", pushing them further out the door


I seriously hope that would not happen....... because there would be a 4-weeks gap between Canadian & British GP then.

Author:  gazzaraggi [ Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:00 pm ]
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Instead of starting a new thread i'd thought i'd ask this here. Anybody know how likely the calendar is to change for next year? I have booked to go to Silverstone and I am pricing ferries from Northern Ireland with imminent intention to book. Should I wait to get confirmation of the dates?
Thanks

Author:  united2010 [ Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:25 pm ]
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The FIA World Council meets the week after the Abu Dhabi GP and there should be a confirmed calendar then or perhaps no update which would mean no changes so i would wait for that personally

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