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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:55 pm 
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next year. we have 21 races on the provisional calender. this years 19 races plus the wuropean gp in bacu and the return of the german gp.

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the updated and ratified technical regulations for next year state that the minimum official world championship races is 8 and the maximum being 20.

the problem is now which grand prix will be dropped or will the world motorsport council ratify the changes so that there will now be a new maximum number of races. (Isn't it to be expanded to 22 for 2017 wuth the races that have contracts)


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:05 pm 
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Red Bull to pull the Austrian GP in protest, FIA to say "no big deal, we only want 20", pushing them further out the door

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:12 pm 
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We have 21 races on the provisional calendar before and 20 many times. We have only actually ever had the full 20 races once. Someone always drops out.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:25 pm 
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Joe Saward has a small piece on this

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/rules-2/

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:37 pm 
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I would never book a holiday around the provisional calander (it was tempting with the Malaysia/Singapore double header) because they always change. Always. It seems to me as though Bernie uses a provisional calendar as a way of bullying certain circuits to cough up by scheduling them into an awkward slot or dropping them all together.

Prediction: Baku won't happen and Hulkenberg will be back at Le Mans defending his title with Porsche.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:43 pm 
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Baku shouldn't happen. F1 has no business visiting a country like Azerbijan.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:57 am 
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Hopefully it won't be Monza or Silverstone to get the boot, if one does... I'd certainly rather see Baku not end up having it together in time after all.

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Joe Saward has a small piece on this

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/rules-2/

Interesting. That would mean that, assuming none of them back out or are cut, we would see all 21.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:35 am 
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^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.


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HawaiiF1Fan wrote:
^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Ah, but New Jersey didn't having the backing of a corrupt government! You're forgetting the most important ingredient for any race to be successful in modern F1!

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Flash2k11 wrote:
Joe Saward has a small piece on this

https://joesaward.wordpress.com/2015/10/14/rules-2/

Saward's quite right. Ultimately the rules are so vague, contradictory and unenforceable anything can happen if the right people have the right will. I'm not saying we won't lose a race. Just that there's no way we'll lose one in order to meet the 20 race 'limit.'

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I'm just wondering how does this affect the engine allocation, are we back to 5 engines?

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pokerman wrote:
I'm just wondering how does this affect the engine allocation, are we back to 5 engines?



I believe we are regardless of whether Baku goes ahead, as far as I remember, 20 races is the trigger for 5 engines per season.

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Exediron wrote:
HawaiiF1Fan wrote:
^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Ah, but New Jersey didn't having the backing of a corrupt government! You're forgetting the most important ingredient for any race to be successful in modern F1!

:-P

Sad but true. Our corrupt government did not back the race while Middle Eastern corrupt governments know how to have a good time.


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Sad but true. Our corrupt government did not back the race while Middle Eastern corrupt governments know how to have a good time.

:D

It hurts because it's true.

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Exediron wrote:
HawaiiF1Fan wrote:
^^^I think Baku gets dropped. Remember all the buzz about NY/New Jersey? Now nothing.

Ah, but New Jersey didn't having the backing of a corrupt government! You're forgetting the most important ingredient for any race to be successful in modern F1!

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I stand corrected.


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Herb wrote:
pokerman wrote:
I'm just wondering how does this affect the engine allocation, are we back to 5 engines?



I believe we are regardless of whether Baku goes ahead, as far as I remember, 20 races is the trigger for 5 engines per season.

Yes I knew 20 races was the trigger for 5 races, I didn't know if it still stood for next year

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Red Bull to pull the Austrian GP in protest, FIA to say "no big deal, we only want 20", pushing them further out the door


I seriously hope that would not happen....... because there would be a 4-weeks gap between Canadian & British GP then.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:00 pm 
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Instead of starting a new thread i'd thought i'd ask this here. Anybody know how likely the calendar is to change for next year? I have booked to go to Silverstone and I am pricing ferries from Northern Ireland with imminent intention to book. Should I wait to get confirmation of the dates?
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The FIA World Council meets the week after the Abu Dhabi GP and there should be a confirmed calendar then or perhaps no update which would mean no changes so i would wait for that personally


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