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Not sure how many of you know about the 2016 champ's fledgling new career in media. I figured he'd just try to be a pundit like Coulthard or Hill but he looks to be approaching this from a more creative angle. Anyway, I think it might be something to keep an eye on. He has connections in F1 with both personnel and manufacturers that most people simply do not.

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I just wish he would turn down the damn music in his videos. The content is very good though.


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Have subscribed to his channel for many years already, lots of great content!

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I just wish he would turn down the damn music in his videos. The content is very good though.

Agreed, on both points. His content is quite good, the production values are excellent, but he (or his editor, more accurately) is a bit too fond of the loud hyper-modern mood music between cuts.

I've never been a Rosberg fan, but I do appreciate his viewpoint. He knows what he's talking about, and now that he's out of F1 he's free to say it.

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He’s been making videos for a very long time now. His WDC must have been special for those who have been following his channel since 2011.




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I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.

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I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.

Doesn't matter how many people are working behind the camera if the the content of the video is developed by Nico and are his ideas then he is more than a presenter.

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Looks like he's having a great life. I'm envious. Both of them really.


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minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.

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minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.

I can see it.

He had to move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil in order to win a WDC.

The stress must have been unimaginable.


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Altair wrote:
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minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.

I can see it.

He had to move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil in order to win a WDC.

The stress must have been unimaginable.

He raced a car! I know competing at the top is very stressful but how would he have had to "move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil" just for driving a race car? I think that's a bit dramatic


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Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


...and had to go against lewis Hamilton...

Rosberg just loves to be on camera. I used to follow him since 2012. He used to post videos after every race detailing how he did. I always thought those were awesome and why more drivers didnt do the same.


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Zoue wrote:
Altair wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.

I can see it.

He had to move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil in order to win a WDC.

The stress must have been unimaginable.

He raced a car! I know competing at the top is very stressful but how would he have had to "move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil" just for driving a race car? I think that's a bit dramatic


It’s not just racing a car. It’s travelling around the world which takes a massive toll (I recall Alonso spent the equivalent of an entire month in a plane during 2013). On top of that your physical preparation of training, nutrition and sleep needed to be managed to the maximum degree. Furthermore, he has a family, friends and emotions which you can’t ignore. If you look at any one with a very high level of success be it a Prime Minister, athlete or an investment banker their lives are not balanced at all - which is why they are so fragile.
I’d also argue Nico needed to work harder off the track than Lewis to achieve the same results as I don’t think he had as much natural talent.

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cm97 wrote:
Zoue wrote:
Altair wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.

I can see it.

He had to move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil in order to win a WDC.

The stress must have been unimaginable.

He raced a car! I know competing at the top is very stressful but how would he have had to "move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil" just for driving a race car? I think that's a bit dramatic


It’s not just racing a car. It’s travelling around the world which takes a massive toll (I recall Alonso spent the equivalent of an entire month in a plane during 2013). On top of that your physical preparation of training, nutrition and sleep needed to be managed to the maximum degree. Furthermore, he has a family, friends and emotions which you can’t ignore. If you look at any one with a very high level of success be it a Prime Minister, athlete or an investment banker their lives are not balanced at all - which is why they are so fragile.
I’d also argue Nico needed to work harder off the track than Lewis to achieve the same results as I don’t think he had as much natural talent.
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


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Zoue wrote:
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.


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MasterRacer wrote:
Zoue wrote:
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.

I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.


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cm97 wrote:
Zoue wrote:
Altair wrote:
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minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.

I can see it.

He had to move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil in order to win a WDC.

The stress must have been unimaginable.

He raced a car! I know competing at the top is very stressful but how would he have had to "move the heavens and earth and probably sign his soul away to the devil" just for driving a race car? I think that's a bit dramatic


It’s not just racing a car. It’s travelling around the world which takes a massive toll (I recall Alonso spent the equivalent of an entire month in a plane during 2013). On top of that your physical preparation of training, nutrition and sleep needed to be managed to the maximum degree. Furthermore, he has a family, friends and emotions which you can’t ignore. If you look at any one with a very high level of success be it a Prime Minister, athlete or an investment banker their lives are not balanced at all - which is why they are so fragile.
I’d also argue Nico needed to work harder off the track than Lewis to achieve the same results as I don’t think he had as much natural talent.


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We often see Teams cars lining up in consecutive positions on the grid - partly because of the sharing of data being so comprehensive.


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Siao7 wrote:
MasterRacer wrote:
Zoue wrote:
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.

I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.

Of course it can be mostly the same for the back end of the grid as well, but the key difference here was that not everyone has Lewis Hamilton as their teammate.

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froze wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
MasterRacer wrote:
Zoue wrote:
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.

I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.

Of course it can be mostly the same for the back end of the grid as well, but the key difference here was that not everyone has Lewis Hamilton as their teammate.

Very true


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froze wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
MasterRacer wrote:
Zoue wrote:
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.

I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.

Of course it can be mostly the same for the back end of the grid as well, but the key difference here was that not everyone has Lewis Hamilton as their teammate.

In all honesty, I think the pressure is probably worse at the back end of the grid, in many ways.

At the front, you have largely established drivers. They are fighting to prove they are the best and the stress comes from the natural competitive element and the desire not to lose. But at the back, there's the added stress of knowing that often you are fighting for your very career and I'll bet this offers a few more sleepless nights.

I don't see that Rosberg had any more stress than just about any WDC contender in a close fight before him


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Zoue wrote:
froze wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
MasterRacer wrote:
Zoue wrote:
All of the above are applicable to every driver on the grid. Have they all moved heaven and earth and sold their souls away?


There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.

I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.

Of course it can be mostly the same for the back end of the grid as well, but the key difference here was that not everyone has Lewis Hamilton as their teammate.

In all honesty, I think the pressure is probably worse at the back end of the grid, in many ways.

At the front, you have largely established drivers. They are fighting to prove they are the best and the stress comes from the natural competitive element and the desire not to lose. But at the back, there's the added stress of knowing that often you are fighting for your very career and I'll bet this offers a few more sleepless nights.

I don't see that Rosberg had any more stress than just about any WDC contender in a close fight before him

I rarely disagree with you Zoue but I do on this topic. I don't doubt that all the drivers do the best they can to beat their teammates and score the best possible result for themselves and their teams, but when there's a WDC on the line - which is the grand prize they all strive for throughout their entire lives - I bet they walk the extra mile in every single aspect in order to be better prepared and that thousandth of a second faster. Especially when you're up against such an elite driver and the margin is so tiny. I can't imagine there being a driver under as much stress and pressure as Rosberg was in 2016. Hamilton must also have been under immense pressure but knowing you already are a multiple world champion regardless of the championship outcome must take the edge of it.

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Covalent wrote:
Zoue wrote:
froze wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
MasterRacer wrote:
There was a lot that went on at Mercedes that was exhausting, simply because the car was so good both drivers needed to look for every possible advantage to beat the other, and the pressure was always on because both pushed each other to the limit. There was endless politicking, disputes, mind games, conspiracy theories going on. And it happened every race weekend for a few years, played out in front of the worlds media. I think Nico’s exhaustive efforts to realise his childhood dream would have tested the limits of most guys on the same grid. I’m not surprised he retired once he achieved his goal.

I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.

Of course it can be mostly the same for the back end of the grid as well, but the key difference here was that not everyone has Lewis Hamilton as their teammate.

In all honesty, I think the pressure is probably worse at the back end of the grid, in many ways.

At the front, you have largely established drivers. They are fighting to prove they are the best and the stress comes from the natural competitive element and the desire not to lose. But at the back, there's the added stress of knowing that often you are fighting for your very career and I'll bet this offers a few more sleepless nights.

I don't see that Rosberg had any more stress than just about any WDC contender in a close fight before him

I rarely disagree with you Zoue but I do on this topic. I don't doubt that all the drivers do the best they can to beat their teammates and score the best possible result for themselves and their teams, but when there's a WDC on the line - which is the grand prize they all strive for throughout their entire lives - I bet they walk the extra mile in every single aspect in order to be better prepared and that thousandth of a second faster. Especially when you're up against such an elite driver and the margin is so tiny. I can't imagine there being a driver under as much stress and pressure as Rosberg was in 2016. Hamilton must also have been under immense pressure but knowing you already are a multiple world champion regardless of the championship outcome must take the edge of it.
I'm not trying to say the front runners don't have any pressure. I fully agree with you that a WDC being on the line will focus a driver's mind even more sharply and add more pressure. And Rosberg was undoubtedly a bundle of nerves by virtue of the fact that a combination of the points system, reliability and the massive car advantage Mercedes had over the rest of the field gave him the opportunity to fight for a title his talent alone wouldn't have presented him with.

But if I compare to, say, Jolyon Palmer or Daniel Kvyat turning up each weekend and wondering whether it was going to be their last, I think it wouldn't be near as stressful. Or maybe just a different kind of stress, I guess. But I'm happy to agree to disagree, or even be wrong on it. I just think fighting for survival is more stressful than fighting for victory, but that's not to take away from either


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I went there and watched it.
Spent the rest of the week trying to find out how to un-subscribe in youtube :uhoh: .


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Zoue wrote:
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Zoue wrote:
froze wrote:
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I think it is equally cut-throat on both sides of the grid. Some of these drivers have only a handful of seasons to prove themselves against their team mates or lose the seat to the next kid with some funding or a rich dad. While I agree it was a season that took it's toll on both Mercedes drivers, however, I do not think it is a unique situation in F1.

Of course it can be mostly the same for the back end of the grid as well, but the key difference here was that not everyone has Lewis Hamilton as their teammate.

In all honesty, I think the pressure is probably worse at the back end of the grid, in many ways.

At the front, you have largely established drivers. They are fighting to prove they are the best and the stress comes from the natural competitive element and the desire not to lose. But at the back, there's the added stress of knowing that often you are fighting for your very career and I'll bet this offers a few more sleepless nights.

I don't see that Rosberg had any more stress than just about any WDC contender in a close fight before him

I rarely disagree with you Zoue but I do on this topic. I don't doubt that all the drivers do the best they can to beat their teammates and score the best possible result for themselves and their teams, but when there's a WDC on the line - which is the grand prize they all strive for throughout their entire lives - I bet they walk the extra mile in every single aspect in order to be better prepared and that thousandth of a second faster. Especially when you're up against such an elite driver and the margin is so tiny. I can't imagine there being a driver under as much stress and pressure as Rosberg was in 2016. Hamilton must also have been under immense pressure but knowing you already are a multiple world champion regardless of the championship outcome must take the edge of it.
I'm not trying to say the front runners don't have any pressure. I fully agree with you that a WDC being on the line will focus a driver's mind even more sharply and add more pressure. And Rosberg was undoubtedly a bundle of nerves by virtue of the fact that a combination of the points system, reliability and the massive car advantage Mercedes had over the rest of the field gave him the opportunity to fight for a title his talent alone wouldn't have presented him with.

But if I compare to, say, Jolyon Palmer or Daniel Kvyat turning up each weekend and wondering whether it was going to be their last, I think it wouldn't be near as stressful. Or maybe just a different kind of stress, I guess. But I'm happy to agree to disagree, or even be wrong on it. I just think fighting for survival is more stressful than fighting for victory, but that's not to take away from either

I understand your viewpoint and I guess it´s a pretty subjective matter. I tried to think of a fitting analogy and the best I could come up with is a group of fishers who have a life long dream, or obsession really, of catching a fabled monster of a fish in some certain lake. They spend all of their time studying the tales and standing with their rods in their boats on the lake. They get along somewhat but the competition and rivalry is stressful and takes its toll on the men. One day one of the fishers catch it on their line and so starts the great long battle to against all odds actually subdue the leviathan and drag it to shore.
I say that fisher is the one most likely to die from a heart attack :)

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I've just watched most of the interview with Toto. I have not rated Toto particularly high, but he comes across very well in that interview, so I need to adjust my opinion of him. Rosberg talks very well too on the subjects they are covering. Very interesting interview.


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I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


He looks pretty freaking happy now.

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I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.

The wording of a post he made at the time of his retirement said it all. He mentioned about ''winning at Suzuka finally allowed the title to be in his hands'' which was an odd thing to say, when he was leading the title race at that point, so being world champion was always in his hands.

What he was accidentally revealing with this comment, was that he meant after the Suzuka victory, he could now wrap the title up by finishing second to Hamilton in the four remaining races, (which he duly managed). This showed that he never felt it was in his hands if he was forced to beat Hamilton at least once more in the season, and his mental state took a battering when he was forced to fight for the title, (due to his dominant machinery and no number two status), and he was openly and publically being humiliated by losing to Hamilton and having no true answer to him, having to take Hamilton's ''gust of wind'' comment in US 2015 for example.

So yeah, Rosberg would have been a broken and beaten man if he kept racing in 2017 and 2018, with his 2016 title looking really lucky and a more standout fluke. By quitting he forces himself to have the final say in this Hamilton/Rosberg saga, at least to the uninitiated that is. This no doubt has Hamilton's back up too, judging by the odd bit of back chat between the pair on social media etc., because Hamilton knows the truth, that Rosberg was a wimp, but he was denied his revenge on Rosberg due to Nico running away, and so is not happy that the public may ultimately think Rosberg was fairly close to Hamilton in performance over that period.


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F1 Racer wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.

The wording of a post he made at the time of his retirement said it all. He mentioned about ''winning at Suzuka finally allowed the title to be in his hands'' which was an odd thing to say, when he was leading the title race at that point, so being world champion was always in his hands.

What he was accidentally revealing with this comment, was that he meant after the Suzuka victory, he could now wrap the title up by finishing second to Hamilton in the four remaining races, (which he duly managed). This showed that he never felt it was in his hands if he was forced to beat Hamilton at least once more in the season, and his mental state took a battering when he was forced to fight for the title, (due to his dominant machinery and no number two status), and he was openly and publically being humiliated by losing to Hamilton and having no true answer to him, having to take Hamilton's ''gust of wind'' comment in US 2015 for example.

So yeah, Rosberg would have been a broken and beaten man if he kept racing in 2017 and 2018, with his 2016 title looking really lucky and a more standout fluke. By quitting he forces himself to have the final say in this Hamilton/Rosberg saga, at least to the uninitiated that is. This no doubt has Hamilton's back up too, judging by the odd bit of back chat between the pair on social media etc., because Hamilton knows the truth, that Rosberg was a wimp, but he was denied his revenge on Rosberg due to Nico running away, and so is not happy that the public may ultimately think Rosberg was fairly close to Hamilton in performance over that period.

I think the 2014-2016 years took everything out of him, with all the pressure and bitterness in the Hamilton rivalry.

Once he realised his goal of winning the championship it just wasn't worth it to him to continue going through that since he had already achieved what he wanted to. As much as I would have liked the drama of Hamilton v Rosberg to continue in 17/18 I have a begrudging respect for Nico bowing out while on top, very few do so.


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F1 Racer wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.

The wording of a post he made at the time of his retirement said it all. He mentioned about ''winning at Suzuka finally allowed the title to be in his hands'' which was an odd thing to say, when he was leading the title race at that point, so being world champion was always in his hands.

What he was accidentally revealing with this comment, was that he meant after the Suzuka victory, he could now wrap the title up by finishing second to Hamilton in the four remaining races, (which he duly managed). This showed that he never felt it was in his hands if he was forced to beat Hamilton at least once more in the season, and his mental state took a battering when he was forced to fight for the title, (due to his dominant machinery and no number two status), and he was openly and publically being humiliated by losing to Hamilton and having no true answer to him, having to take Hamilton's ''gust of wind'' comment in US 2015 for example.

So yeah, Rosberg would have been a broken and beaten man if he kept racing in 2017 and 2018, with his 2016 title looking really lucky and a more standout fluke. By quitting he forces himself to have the final say in this Hamilton/Rosberg saga, at least to the uninitiated that is. This no doubt has Hamilton's back up too, judging by the odd bit of back chat between the pair on social media etc., because Hamilton knows the truth, that Rosberg was a wimp, but he was denied his revenge on Rosberg due to Nico running away, and so is not happy that the public may ultimately think Rosberg was fairly close to Hamilton in performance over that period.

Way to dress up bitter opinions as facts.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.

The wording of a post he made at the time of his retirement said it all. He mentioned about ''winning at Suzuka finally allowed the title to be in his hands'' which was an odd thing to say, when he was leading the title race at that point, so being world champion was always in his hands.

What he was accidentally revealing with this comment, was that he meant after the Suzuka victory, he could now wrap the title up by finishing second to Hamilton in the four remaining races, (which he duly managed). This showed that he never felt it was in his hands if he was forced to beat Hamilton at least once more in the season, and his mental state took a battering when he was forced to fight for the title, (due to his dominant machinery and no number two status), and he was openly and publically being humiliated by losing to Hamilton and having no true answer to him, having to take Hamilton's ''gust of wind'' comment in US 2015 for example.

So yeah, Rosberg would have been a broken and beaten man if he kept racing in 2017 and 2018, with his 2016 title looking really lucky and a more standout fluke. By quitting he forces himself to have the final say in this Hamilton/Rosberg saga, at least to the uninitiated that is. This no doubt has Hamilton's back up too, judging by the odd bit of back chat between the pair on social media etc., because Hamilton knows the truth, that Rosberg was a wimp, but he was denied his revenge on Rosberg due to Nico running away, and so is not happy that the public may ultimately think Rosberg was fairly close to Hamilton in performance over that period.

I think the 2014-2016 years took everything out of him, with all the pressure and bitterness in the Hamilton rivalry.

Once he realised his goal of winning the championship it just wasn't worth it to him to continue going through that since he had already achieved what he wanted to. As much as I would have liked the drama of Hamilton v Rosberg to continue in 17/18 I have a begrudging respect for Nico bowing out while on top, very few do so.

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Covalent wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:
Mercedes-Benz wrote:
minchy wrote:
I seen a couple of his vids before, they're quite good really, a lot better than most of the vlogging vids out there. I could be wrong, but I'm sure I've seen him doing a vid where he explains how many people are working behind the camera for him to make his content.

Not taking anything away from his vids, just pointing out that his actual role in his vids os more of a presenter/host than anything else.


The way he talks to the camera is still impressive. I am sure he is doing for fun only as he is already very rich. I still can't believe he retired so soon. He was driving the best car in F1 and had million $ contract.


He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.

The wording of a post he made at the time of his retirement said it all. He mentioned about ''winning at Suzuka finally allowed the title to be in his hands'' which was an odd thing to say, when he was leading the title race at that point, so being world champion was always in his hands.

What he was accidentally revealing with this comment, was that he meant after the Suzuka victory, he could now wrap the title up by finishing second to Hamilton in the four remaining races, (which he duly managed). This showed that he never felt it was in his hands if he was forced to beat Hamilton at least once more in the season, and his mental state took a battering when he was forced to fight for the title, (due to his dominant machinery and no number two status), and he was openly and publically being humiliated by losing to Hamilton and having no true answer to him, having to take Hamilton's ''gust of wind'' comment in US 2015 for example.

So yeah, Rosberg would have been a broken and beaten man if he kept racing in 2017 and 2018, with his 2016 title looking really lucky and a more standout fluke. By quitting he forces himself to have the final say in this Hamilton/Rosberg saga, at least to the uninitiated that is. This no doubt has Hamilton's back up too, judging by the odd bit of back chat between the pair on social media etc., because Hamilton knows the truth, that Rosberg was a wimp, but he was denied his revenge on Rosberg due to Nico running away, and so is not happy that the public may ultimately think Rosberg was fairly close to Hamilton in performance over that period.

Way to dress up bitter opinions as facts.

Yeah that last sentence in particular is pretty revealing


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No chance of beating Hamilton on equal cars? Did 2016 never happen?


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F1 Racer wrote:
He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.


I think that's a really unfair comment. Rosberg has said several times that Hamilton has more natural talent, and that his only chance is to work exceptionally hard. In the interview with Toto (IIRC) he mentions how he had to shut out everything else in his life to focus on his F1 performance, just to have a shot at the title.

That he didn't want to shut out his newborn baby growing up after having just achieved his life goal resonates completely with me.


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He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.


I think that's a really unfair comment. Rosberg has said several times that Hamilton has more natural talent, and that his only chance is to work exceptionally hard. In the interview with Toto (IIRC) he mentions how he had to shut out everything else in his life to focus on his F1 performance, just to have a shot at the title.

That he didn't want to shut out his newborn baby growing up after having just achieved his life goal resonates completely with me.


Yep !!!!

he's a nice guy, with different priorities. He wanted to win a title and he did it. From his point of view that was enough, so hats off to him.

And he's a mix of pundit and entertainer on TV. Even though his comments might seem bitter to some, their fundamentals are true and we all know this. It's just that he presents them a bit radically so it makes for good tv.

All in all a really pleasant guy, and I do admire him for always being on camera and doing a Vlog. Even though he could just stay away and spend his money, he is always up to something.


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Lord Crc wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:
He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.


I think that's a really unfair comment. Rosberg has said several times that Hamilton has more natural talent, and that his only chance is to work exceptionally hard. In the interview with Toto (IIRC) he mentions how he had to shut out everything else in his life to focus on his F1 performance, just to have a shot at the title.

That he didn't want to shut out his newborn baby growing up after having just achieved his life goal resonates completely with me.


He did a video where he explained all the things he had to change for the 2016 season in order to win the title. Even down to things like changing glove supplier (as the seams were annoying him!). He went to great lengths to beat Hamilton and it took it's toll, understandably. It's probably not that he couldn't do that again (coulda, woulda, shoulda of course); I see it more like the motivation to do that not being there anymore.


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Siao7 wrote:
No chance of beating Hamilton on equal cars? Did 2016 never happen?


I mentioned 'equal luck' too. Please read the posts on here fully. :-)


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Siao7 wrote:
Lord Crc wrote:
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He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.


I think that's a really unfair comment. Rosberg has said several times that Hamilton has more natural talent, and that his only chance is to work exceptionally hard. In the interview with Toto (IIRC) he mentions how he had to shut out everything else in his life to focus on his F1 performance, just to have a shot at the title.

That he didn't want to shut out his newborn baby growing up after having just achieved his life goal resonates completely with me.


He did a video where he explained all the things he had to change for the 2016 season in order to win the title. Even down to things like changing glove supplier (as the seams were annoying him!). He went to great lengths to beat Hamilton and it took it's toll, understandably. It's probably not that he couldn't do that again (coulda, woulda, shoulda of course); I see it more like the motivation to do that not being there anymore.


Yeah, and none of this would have mattered if Hamilton's engine didn't go pop in Malaysia. If his engine holds up, he would have finished 23 points ahead of Nico in the final standings, even including all of his other bad luck that he had over Rosberg that year.

I wonder how the points table would have looked if it was adjusted for luck. Maybe Hamilton being 100 points clear or something crazy like that. 2016 was a woeful season for Rosberg, he was a Tier Two or Three driver that stole a WDC like D Hill and J Villeneuve. The 2016 retirement happened to help preserve his reputation as possibly being a lower Tier One driver and therefore deserving of his WDC, and it seems to have worked as many people on here seem to think he was better than he actually was if you look at his results closely.


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F1 Racer wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Lord Crc wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:
He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.


I think that's a really unfair comment. Rosberg has said several times that Hamilton has more natural talent, and that his only chance is to work exceptionally hard. In the interview with Toto (IIRC) he mentions how he had to shut out everything else in his life to focus on his F1 performance, just to have a shot at the title.

That he didn't want to shut out his newborn baby growing up after having just achieved his life goal resonates completely with me.


He did a video where he explained all the things he had to change for the 2016 season in order to win the title. Even down to things like changing glove supplier (as the seams were annoying him!). He went to great lengths to beat Hamilton and it took it's toll, understandably. It's probably not that he couldn't do that again (coulda, woulda, shoulda of course); I see it more like the motivation to do that not being there anymore.


Yeah, and none of this would have mattered if Hamilton's engine didn't go pop in Malaysia. If his engine holds up, he would have finished 23 points ahead of Nico in the final standings, even including all of his other bad luck that he had over Rosberg that year.

I wonder how the points table would have looked if it was adjusted for luck. Maybe Hamilton being 100 points clear or something crazy like that. 2016 was a woeful season for Rosberg, he was a Tier Two or Three driver that stole a WDC like D Hill and J Villeneuve. The 2016 retirement happened to help preserve his reputation as possibly being a lower Tier One driver and therefore deserving of his WDC, and it seems to have worked as many people on here seem to think he was better than he actually was if you look at his results closely.

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Covalent wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Lord Crc wrote:
F1 Racer wrote:
He quit because he didn't want his legacy being tainted when he knew he had no chance against Hamilton given equal machinery and equal luck.


I think that's a really unfair comment. Rosberg has said several times that Hamilton has more natural talent, and that his only chance is to work exceptionally hard. In the interview with Toto (IIRC) he mentions how he had to shut out everything else in his life to focus on his F1 performance, just to have a shot at the title.

That he didn't want to shut out his newborn baby growing up after having just achieved his life goal resonates completely with me.


He did a video where he explained all the things he had to change for the 2016 season in order to win the title. Even down to things like changing glove supplier (as the seams were annoying him!). He went to great lengths to beat Hamilton and it took it's toll, understandably. It's probably not that he couldn't do that again (coulda, woulda, shoulda of course); I see it more like the motivation to do that not being there anymore.


Yeah, and none of this would have mattered if Hamilton's engine didn't go pop in Malaysia. If his engine holds up, he would have finished 23 points ahead of Nico in the final standings, even including all of his other bad luck that he had over Rosberg that year.

I wonder how the points table would have looked if it was adjusted for luck. Maybe Hamilton being 100 points clear or something crazy like that. 2016 was a woeful season for Rosberg, he was a Tier Two or Three driver that stole a WDC like D Hill and J Villeneuve. The 2016 retirement happened to help preserve his reputation as possibly being a lower Tier One driver and therefore deserving of his WDC, and it seems to have worked as many people on here seem to think he was better than he actually was if you look at his results closely.

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