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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:30 pm 
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Ferrari is a one car team. Vettel the lucky guy despite all his driving mistakes.

Hardly lucky if he has the pace to top the session is he?

Ridiculous from Ferrari, they're determined to make every strategy error going this year aren't they.


TBF it's not just the team the drivers aren't doing there bit either. Vettel hits the wall and Leclerc makes an error on his first lap. It took errors from drivers and team to take Leclerc out.


What has Vettel's error got to do with Leclerc, Vettel made his error and still came in changed tyres and still made it.

Leclercs side of the garage just tried to be too clever.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:33 pm 
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Surprised Albon isn't closer to Kvyat, he has looked strong all through practice.

Fight for pole looks to be on between the Mercedes pair, Bottas looks on it.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:34 pm 
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Leclerc had plenty of time.

Yeah, Leclerc was ready to go before Vettel pitted for the last time and Seb still got in his last lap.

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:35 pm 
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He had absolutely ages to go back out again, they didn't send him because they were doing that thing again where prepare for Q3 before actually getting there


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:39 pm 
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Anyone else find the halo graphic that shows brake/throttle really annoying? It's always wrong, saying they're braking when you can clearly see they're still full throttle.

It's as though the picture is on a slight delay so you see the telemetry before the picture shows it, but it makes the graphic completely pointless.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:39 pm 
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Ferrari making it really hard to support them


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Both Toro Rosso cars in front of Gasly, oh dear. I dont think he's long for that seat at this rate.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:43 pm 
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One thing I don’t get with modern Monaco, it’s supposed to be a drivers track, where a driver can make a difference. But nearly all team mates are around 0.1 apart in Q2. Except Gasly (who has been bad all year vs Max) and Grosjean.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:43 pm 
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Ferrari need to reorganise their strategy team, this Team Vettel vs Team Leclerc is not gonna work for them.


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Both Toro Rosso cars in front of Gasly, oh dear. I dont think he's long for that seat at this rate.

I also think that Gasly will get a penalty for blocking Grosjean?

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Gasly man, this guy is in trouble


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Rockie wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
Ferrari is a one car team. Vettel the lucky guy despite all his driving mistakes.

Hardly lucky if he has the pace to top the session is he?

Ridiculous from Ferrari, they're determined to make every strategy error going this year aren't they.


TBF it's not just the team the drivers aren't doing there bit either. Vettel hits the wall and Leclerc makes an error on his first lap. It took errors from drivers and team to take Leclerc out.


What has Vettel's error got to do with Leclerc, Vettel made his error and still came in changed tyres and still made it.

Leclercs side of the garage just tried to be too clever.


Point being neither Leclerc or Vettel are in a position to really take Ferrari to task.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:48 pm 
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Gotta give it to Leclerc.

Screwed over in his home race but still does autographs & pics.

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One thing I don’t get with modern Monaco, it’s supposed to be a drivers track, where a driver can make a difference. But nearly all team mates are around 0.1 apart in Q2. Except Gasly (who has been bad all year vs Max) and Grosjean.

grosjean got very very badly held up this time. He quite likely would have got through without this. Grosjean hasn't been anywhere near as bad as things have made it look. His luck has just been shockingly bad.


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Mort Canard wrote:
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Leclerc had plenty of time.

Yeah, Leclerc was ready to go before Vettel pitted for the last time and Seb still got in his last lap.


Yeah, Ferrari just panic-focused on Vettel and literally forgot about Leclerc. Very telling about the mind-set of their leaders.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:52 pm 
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Signs with '77' around the track for the 77th Monaco GP.

It's a fix!


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:56 pm 
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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
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Leclerc had plenty of time.

Yeah, Leclerc was ready to go before Vettel pitted for the last time and Seb still got in his last lap.


Yeah, Ferrari just panic-focused on Vettel and literally forgot about Leclerc. Very telling about the mind-set of their leaders.


You do realise they have different set of mechanics and race engineer?


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:57 pm 
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With no sarcasm whatsoever, I actually like this.

With Ferrari falling back and red bull(max) doing better, Ferrari and red bull are actually best of the rest.

So Mercedes is the championship tier, Ferrari / red bull are best of the rest, teams 4-9 formula 1.5, and Williams formula 2.

Focusing on these championships in isolation, there is parity.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 1:57 pm 
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Rockie wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
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Ferrari is a one car team. Vettel the lucky guy despite all his driving mistakes.

Hardly lucky if he has the pace to top the session is he?

Ridiculous from Ferrari, they're determined to make every strategy error going this year aren't they.


TBF it's not just the team the drivers aren't doing there bit either. Vettel hits the wall and Leclerc makes an error on his first lap. It took errors from drivers and team to take Leclerc out.


What has Vettel's error got to do with Leclerc, Vettel made his error and still came in changed tyres and still made it.

Leclercs side of the garage just tried to be too clever.


Point being neither Leclerc or Vettel are in a position to really take Ferrari to task.


Take to task in what way?


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:00 pm 
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Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Leclerc had plenty of time.

Yeah, Leclerc was ready to go before Vettel pitted for the last time and Seb still got in his last lap.


Yeah, Ferrari just panic-focused on Vettel and literally forgot about Leclerc. Very telling about the mind-set of their leaders.

Forgot about Leclerc? Not sure that is the case, let's wait and see what happened


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Wow really didn't think Hamilton was gonna do it, especially with that onboard through the penultimate corner.

Vettel tho, disappoints again


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:01 pm 
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Hamilton showin' who's the boss!

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:01 pm 
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That's what Hamilton does, pulls it out the bag.

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Wow I was sure Hamilton had lost that after that super sruffy Rascasse, how bad was Bottas' provisional final sector? 8O

Cant believe Vettel's car held up after that touch, looked fast.


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Think Hamilton is in tears... that clearly meant a lot.

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Not on it, but took the most important pole of the year.

Lewis more happy than any other recent pole it seems.


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Rockie wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Leclerc had plenty of time.

Yeah, Leclerc was ready to go before Vettel pitted for the last time and Seb still got in his last lap.


Yeah, Ferrari just panic-focused on Vettel and literally forgot about Leclerc. Very telling about the mind-set of their leaders.


You do realise they have different set of mechanics and race engineer?


And one lead strategist who made the final decision.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:03 pm 
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Rockie wrote:

Take to task in what way?


Make a fuss and tell them they need to buck their ideas up. Hard to do that when you're making mistakes yourself. It took errors from both Leclerc and Ferrari to put Leclerc in the position he is in.

Ferrari aren't operating like a top team and neither Leclerc or Vettel are driving like top drivers.


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Some save by Hamilton, Bottas looked to have have him beat, with all the steering corrections around the last 2 corners I thought he'd blown it, never seen Hamilton that excited this season, he knows he stole that one from his teammate.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Wow I was sure Hamilton had lost that after that super sruffy Rascasse, how bad was Bottas' provisional final sector? 8O

Cant believe Vettel's car held up after that touch, looked fast.


Because it was a side swipe not a head on hit!


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Rockie wrote:
Paolo_Lasardi wrote:
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Leclerc had plenty of time.

Yeah, Leclerc was ready to go before Vettel pitted for the last time and Seb still got in his last lap.


Yeah, Ferrari just panic-focused on Vettel and literally forgot about Leclerc. Very telling about the mind-set of their leaders.


You do realise they have different set of mechanics and race engineer?

They have a team principal too... Though we all wonder whether they really have one.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
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Take to task in what way?


Make a fuss and tell them they need to buck their ideas up. Hard to do that when you're making mistakes yourself. It took errors from both Leclerc and Ferrari to put Leclerc in the position he is in.

Ferrari aren't operating like a top team and neither Leclerc or Vettel are driving like top drivers.


Maybe just maybe the car is not there and the drivers over compensating!


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Rockie wrote:
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Wow I was sure Hamilton had lost that after that super sruffy Rascasse, how bad was Bottas' provisional final sector? 8O

Cant believe Vettel's car held up after that touch, looked fast.


Because it was a side swipe not a head on hit!

Sure but still looked like hard enough of an impact to cause some damage to me, evidently these cars aren't as fragile as they sometimes look.


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That Hamilton guy is just special. Great performances by Magnussen and Ricciardo.

Vettel? Mistake after mistake after mistake ...


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whatever happened to Bottas and Verstappen?


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Rockie wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
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Take to task in what way?


Make a fuss and tell them they need to buck their ideas up. Hard to do that when you're making mistakes yourself. It took errors from both Leclerc and Ferrari to put Leclerc in the position he is in.

Ferrari aren't operating like a top team and neither Leclerc or Vettel are driving like top drivers.


Maybe just maybe the car is not there and the drivers over compensating!

Verstappen's car is not there either so it makes your point a bit mute?

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pokerman wrote:
Rockie wrote:
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Rockie wrote:

Take to task in what way?


Make a fuss and tell them they need to buck their ideas up. Hard to do that when you're making mistakes yourself. It took errors from both Leclerc and Ferrari to put Leclerc in the position he is in.

Ferrari aren't operating like a top team and neither Leclerc or Vettel are driving like top drivers.


Maybe just maybe the car is not there and the drivers over compensating!

Verstappen's car is not there either so it makes your point a bit mute?


How is Verstappens car not there?

Ferrari is suffering from rear stability and downforce whereas the Redbull lacks power two different things!


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bottas will be hoping for hamilton to have a very bad start. That is about his only chance. Despite some saying Bottas is no different to last year, i disagree. He is putting Hamilton under some serious pressure in qualifying htis year. And Hamilton is looking like he's feeling the pressure. IN the races, unless Bottas gets the start though, Hamilton does look quicker. but i still think Bottas is a fair bit better than last year.


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Rockie wrote:
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Rockie wrote:
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Rockie wrote:

Take to task in what way?


Make a fuss and tell them they need to buck their ideas up. Hard to do that when you're making mistakes yourself. It took errors from both Leclerc and Ferrari to put Leclerc in the position he is in.

Ferrari aren't operating like a top team and neither Leclerc or Vettel are driving like top drivers.


Maybe just maybe the car is not there and the drivers over compensating!

Verstappen's car is not there either so it makes your point a bit mute?


How is Verstappens car not there?

Ferrari is suffering from rear stability and downforce whereas the Redbull lacks power two different things!

The Red Bull car itself is slower than the Mercedes as well and let's not forget that Monaco is not an engine track, how do the drivers cope that have worse cars than the Ferrari?

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