Rockie wrote:
Zoue wrote:
Rockie wrote:
Zoue wrote:
I think Ferrari has certainly worsened under Binotto (notwithstanding the fact that they weren't exactly perfect under Arrivabene) and he seems somewhat out of his depth as a TP. But as someone alluded to earlier it seems Binotto was forcing a choice between him and Arrivabene so Ferrari were between a rock and a hard place.
For all Arrivabene's faults, his tenure did coincide with a rise in fortunes for the Reds, so I don't think he was that terrible. Binotto's a good tech guy but so far I've not been impressed with him as a TP
You do realise Binotto was the one who sorted the engine for '15 and also the chassis after they let James Allison go.
If MA is still there Ferrari will still be going through same problem as they have basically divided the team basically to Team Vettel vs Team Leclerc, if you have a championship winning car that is all good, but when you need to get your car working you need to work as a team.
yes, that's why I wrote he was a good tech guy.
And do you realise that all occurred under MA's watch, too?
I'm not disputing Binotto is a capable tech guy. But that doesn't make him a capable TP and so far I don't think he's covered himself in glory, which is the only point I'm making really. MA wasn't perfect either but to his credit the team certainly improved under his watch and went from being nowhere to a serious challenger, so it's not like he was disastrous. He did make mistakes too for sure but so far under Binotto I don't think Ferrari have had a trouble-free weekend some six races in which is not a hugely impressive scenario for a team with Ferrari's pedigree. I'm not saying Binotto is definitely not up to the task but so far I haven't seen much to suggest he is, either.
MA had no say in the technical aspect, so saying Ferrari improved under him that was all down to Binotto which the late Sergio Marchionne duly acknowledged, and also in the strategy dept was MA not there when the Germany fiasco happened or qualy in Italy where Vettel was giving Kimi a tow?
The only difference now is Charles is closer than Kimi ever was hence the strategy problems as it has always been one of Ferrari's weak link.
I'm of the opinion that you can't blame a TP for what goes wrong and not credit him for what works. If the Ferrari PU had been a dog then MA would have taken a large chunk of the blame for that, so if it's going as planned then he should also get the credit, or at least some of it. The TP{ creates the conditions under which everybody works.
Picking examples of issues isn't really relevant. I've already said that MA made mistakes too, but it's my opinion these have increased under Binotto. So far, Binotto has not shown he's up to the job and appears to be a step down from his predecessor. Can't say if that's luck or judgement but I don't see anything that tells me that Ferrari are better now MA is no longer in the picture?
And, btw, I'm not saying this as some kind of plea to bring MA back, just saying that Ferrari don't appear to have taken any steps forward and have arguably done the reverse